tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post116861215931259551..comments2024-03-24T03:21:03.154-04:00Comments on CAMPONTHIS: THE CROSS OF CHRIST (pt 3)...the place of our constant boastingSJ Camphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15844201288864307481noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-33389612569625430672015-04-05T21:53:38.887-04:002015-04-05T21:53:38.887-04:00cara mengatasi berbagai macam penyakit secara alam...cara mengatasi berbagai macam penyakit secara alami<br /><a href="http://obatherbalpenurundarahtinggi33.wordpress.com/" title="Obat Herbal Penurun Darah Tinggi" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Penurun Darah Tinggi</a> <a href="http://obatherbalambeienakut33.wordpress.com/" title="Obat Herbal Ambeien Akut" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Ambeien Akut</a> <a href="http://obatherbaluntukpenyakitbatuempedu33.wordpress.com/" title="Obat Herbal Batu Empedu Tanpa Operasi" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Batu Empedu Tanpa Operasi</a> <a href="http://obatherbalsinusitiskronis33.wordpress.com/" title="Obat Herbal Sinusitis Kronis" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Sinusitis Kronis</a> <a href="http://obatherbaltumorotak33.blogspot.com/" title="Obat Herbal Tumor Otak Jinak" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Tumor Otak Jinak</a> <a href="http://obatherbaluntukpenyakitwasir33.blogspot.com/" title="Obat Herbal Wasir Kronis Tanpa Operasi" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Wasir Kronis Tanpa Operasi</a> <a href="http://obatherballiverkronis33.blogspot.com/" title="Obat Herbal Liver Kronis Paling Ampuh" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Liver Kronis Paling Ampuh</a> <a href="http://obatherbalbronkitiskronis33.wordpress.com/" title="Obat Herbal Bronkitis Kronis" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Bronkitis Kronis</a> <a href="http://obatherbalususbuntutanpaoperasi33.wordpress.com/" title="Obat Herbal Usus Buntu Tanpa Operasi" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Usus Buntu Tanpa Operasi</a> <a href="http://obatherbaleksimpalingampuh33.blogspot.com/" title="Obat Herbal Eksim Paling Ampuh" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Eksim Paling Ampuh</a> <a href="http://obatherbalgagalginjalkronis33.wordpress.com/" title="Obat Herbal Gagal Ginjal Kronis" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Gagal Ginjal Kronis</a> <a href="http://obatherbalkankerpankreas011.wordpress.com/" title="Obat Herbal Kanker Pankreas" rel="nofollow">Obat Herbal Kanker Pankreas</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-1169049215739612402007-01-17T10:53:00.000-05:002007-01-17T10:53:00.000-05:00Hey there YnottonY,I appreciated your post. But no...Hey there YnottonY,<BR/><BR/>I appreciated your post. But now I am getting mixed signals. How could anyone deny that Ryle was a Calminian given the evidence you supplied? I saw that term being used over there at Phil's blog with regard to Chan. The comment was something like 'is he a 4-point Calminian?' My paraphrase. Clearly the thought is that its an Arminian blend or fusion with Calvinism.<BR/><BR/>But surely, if there is going to be a case for one being a Calminian, Ryle has to be THE contender? <BR/><BR/>But whats more comfusing to me is that an Amyraldian like Ryle is used to authoritatively speak to the doctrine of substitution. But the last I heard most folk deny that Amyraldianism, or 4-point Calvinism, or Calminians can logically and truly subscribe to substitionary atonement.<BR/><BR/>Thanks<BR/>DavidDavid Ponterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10329361749094253372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-1168712605176907572007-01-13T13:23:00.000-05:002007-01-13T13:23:00.000-05:00These are tremendously great thoughts by Ryle. Man...These are tremendously great thoughts by Ryle. Many of you help me with great thoughts of God. Sometimes things go over my head and I try to keep up. Not all of us have matured at the level of some of the great expositors out here and truly this verse in Psalms is powerful:<BR/><BR/>"Oh LORD, how great are your works! and your thoughts very deep. A brutish man knows not; neither does a fool understand this." Psalm 92:5-6<BR/><BR/>Truly he works with us in stages and I am grateful for much patience from many of the brethren out here.<BR/>I also like this verse as well,<BR/><BR/>"AS snow in summer, and as rain in harvest, so honor is not seeming for a fool." Psalm 26:1<BR/><BR/>I think this verse teaches us that we must appropriate wisdom carefully. Some people need it with great patience in tiny spoonfuls and others grow with great meat. I have often wondered at the tension of truth though when Jesus said, "I thank thee Father of Heaven and earth that you have hidden these truths from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes."<BR/><BR/>Also how astounding that theologians hid among themselves when Jesus walked the earth and yet at the darkest hour two of them moved forward in great faith while the babes that walked with him then hid in the darkness just prior to the resurrection.<BR/><BR/>Truly of all preachers I think Spurgeon got ahold of the proper appropriation of understanding that great trees of the Lord need great meat while at the same time babes on the seashore needed to have tiny waves of truth hit them and lead them deeper. I think there are other preachers that have this understanding and application today. I think it is a good thing to grasp and find because in truth we are all little lambs in need of our Shepherd.<BR/><BR/>There is such sound and great truth in these posts brother Steve. Thank you and may we continue to read over them and endeavor to make them known to the world calling people to become like a little child both in conversion as well as in daily following and seeking the Lord. May God continue to bless your ministry brother.Bhedrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08091896907803479900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-1168708359521627712007-01-13T12:12:00.000-05:002007-01-13T12:12:00.000-05:00Campi said in a previous post that:"J.C. Ryle is n...Campi said in a previous post that:<BR/><BR/><I>"J.C. Ryle is not moved by contemporary pragmatism, but by the truth of God's Word alone. I hope you will take the time, today and tomorrow, to feast on his rich words. They will lead you to a tremendous understanding of the cross and in turn, the gospel."</I><BR/><BR/>I wholeheartedly agree, especially given what Ryle says about the gospel and what we "ought" to say to people. Keep up the good work :-)Tony Byrnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02102293843397809802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-1168684101819436512007-01-13T05:28:00.000-05:002007-01-13T05:28:00.000-05:00This is great stuff by J. C. Ryle, Campi! Thanks f...This is great stuff by J. C. Ryle, Campi! Thanks for posting material by Ryle and for encouraging people to read <B>all</B> that he said on the cross of Christ, so that we may take it to heart in our doctrine and in our evangelism. He's an excellent source for understanding a Calvinistic view of <A HREF="http://theologicalmeditations.blogspot.com/2006/12/on-penal-substitution.html" REL="nofollow">PENAL SUBSTITUTION</A>. Here's more material by J. C. Ryle on the subject of the cross of Christ that's related to what you've posted:<BR/><BR/>"It is a very remarkable saying, and one of those which seems to me to prove unanswerably that <B>Christ is God's gift to the whole world, - that His redemption was made for all mankind, - that He died for all, - and is offered to all. It is like the famous texts, "God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son" (John iii. 16)</B>; and, "God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son." (1 John v. 11.) It is a gift no doubt which is utterly thrown away, like many other gifts of God to man, and is profitable to none but those that believe. But that <B>God nevertheless does in a certain sense actually "give" His Son, as the true bread from heaven, even to the wicked and unbelieving, appears to me incontrovertibly proved by the words before us</B>. It is a remarkable fact that Erskine, the famous Scotch seceder, based his right to offer Christ to all, on these very words, and defended himself before the General Assembly of the Kirk of Scotland on the strength of them. He asked the Moderator to tell him what Christ meant when He said, "My Father giveth you the true bread from heaven," - and got no answer. The truth is, I venture to think, that <B>the text cannot be answered by the advocates of an extreme view of particular redemption. Fairly interpreted, the words mean that in some sense or another the Father does actually "give" the Son to those who are not believers. They warrant preachers and teachers in making a wide, broad, full, free, unlimited offer of Christ to all mankind without exception</B>."<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://theologicalmeditations.blogspot.com/2005/12/j-c-ryle-on-john-632.html" REL="nofollow">Ryle's Expository Thoughts on the Gospels (Baker, 1979), page 364.</A><BR/><BR/>Here's <A HREF="http://theologicalmeditations.blogspot.com/2006/12/on-ryles-gospel-and-what-we-ought-to.html" REL="nofollow">Ryle from his work on election</A>:<BR/><BR/>"(b) For another thing, the doctrine of Election was never meant to prevent the <I>fullest, freest offer of salvation</I> to every sinner. In preaching and trying to do good we are warranted and commanded to set an open door before every man, woman, and child, and to invite every one to come in. We know not who are God’s Elect, and whom he means to call and convert. Our duty is to invite all. <B>To every unconverted soul without exception we ought to say, “God loves you, and Christ has died for you.”</B> To everyone we ought to say, “Awake, — repent, — believe, — come to Christ, — be converted, — turn, — call upon God, — strive to enter in, — come, for all things are ready.” <B>To tell us that none will hear and be saved except God’s Elect, is quite needless. We know it very well</B>. But to tell us that on that account it is useless to offer salvation to any at all, is simply absurd. Who are we that we should pretend to know who will be found God’s Elect at last? No! indeed. Those who now seem first may prove last, and those who seem last may prove first in the judgment day. We will invite all, in the firm belief that the invitation will do good to some. We will prophesy to the dry bones, if God commands us. We will offer life to all, though many reject the offer. In so doing we believe that we walk in the steps of our Master and His Apostles."<BR/><BR/>And more from his <A HREF="http://theologicalmeditations.blogspot.com/2006/10/j-c-ryle-on-john-627.html" REL="nofollow">Expository Thoughts on the John 6:37</A>:<BR/><BR/>"When our Lord says, "The Son of man shall give you the meat that endureth to everlasting life," He appears to me to make one of the widest and most general offers to unconverted sinners, that we have anywhere in the Bible. The men to whom He was speaking were, beyond question, carnal–minded and unconverted men. Yet even to them Jesus says, "The Son of man shall give unto you." To me it seems an unmistakable statement of Christ's willingness and readiness to give pardon and grace to any sinner. It seems to me to warrant ministers in proclaiming Christ's readiness to save any one, and in offering salvation to any one, if he will only repent and believe the Gospel. <B>The favorite notion of some, that Christ is to be offered only to the elect, – that grace and pardon are to be exhibited but not offered to a congregation, – that we ought not to say broadly and fully to all whom we preach to, Christ is ready and willing to save you, – such notions, I say, appear to me entirely irreconcilable with the language of our Lord. Election, no doubt, is a mighty truth and a precious privilege. Complete and full redemption no doubt is the possession of none but the elect. But how easy it is, in holding these glorious truths, to become more systematic than the Bible, and to spoil the Gospel by cramping and limiting it!</B>"<BR/><BR/>J. C Ryle, <I>Expository Thoughts On The Gospels</I> (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1979), 3:353.<BR/><BR/>And, in Ryle's <A HREF="http://theologicalmeditations.blogspot.com/2005/07/j-c-ryle-on-john-316.html" REL="nofollow">material on John 3:16</A>, which is rightly brought up several times in your commendable Cross of Christ post, he cites John Davenant (an English delegate to the Synod of Dort) approvingly. Davenant said:<BR/><BR/>"The general love of God toward mankind is so clearly testified in Holy Scripture, and so demonstrated by the manifold effects of God's goodness and mercy extended to every particular man in this world, that to doubt thereof were infidelity, and to deny it plain blasphemy." - <I>Davenant's Answer to Hoard</I>, p. 1.<BR/><BR/>"No divine of the Reformed Church, of sound judgment, will deny a general intention or appointment concerning the salvation of all men individually by the death of Christ, on the condition if they believe. For the intention or appointment of God is general, and is plainly revealed in Holy Scripture, although the absolute and not to be frustrated intention of God concerning the gift of faith and eternal life to some persons, is special, and limited to the elect alone. So I have maintained and do maintain." - <I>Davenant's Opinion on the Gallican Controversy</I>.<BR/><BR/>See his <I>Expository Thoughts on the Gospels</I>, Vol. 3, by J. C. Ryle. See pages 156-158.Tony Byrnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02102293843397809802noreply@blogger.com