tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post1151562811661747473..comments2024-03-29T05:31:07.363-04:00Comments on CAMPONTHIS: O SACRED HEAD NOW WOUNDED...the shame, suffering and satisfaction of the crossSJ Camphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15844201288864307481noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-88269104561163141412009-04-16T09:00:00.000-04:002009-04-16T09:00:00.000-04:00yeah - maybe i was a little ... uh ... cross in my...yeah - maybe i was a little ... uh ... <I>cross</I> in my comments. sorry.<br /><br />on the three vs two:<br /><br />friday -+1-> saturday -+2-> sunday.<br /><br />i tend to lean to the 'and on the third day arise' texts.<br /><br />but there is a lot of good evidence and analysis, based on the way Holy Week goes, when the 'day of preparation' is, and when the actual feast occurs that says the crucifixion actually occured on <I>thursday</I> and not friday, as we currently celebrate it (although 'celebrate' seems to be the wrong word for a crucifixion, even in light of the ideas in this post).<br /><br />ah, those darn catholics again - stealing holidays to somehow convert the pagans by fiat. will those over-reaching popes ever be happy?<br /><br />mike rucker<br /><A HREF="http://mikerucker.wordpress.com" REL="nofollow">mikerucker.wordpress.com</A>spud tooleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09921322553025339949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-8760710638959135842009-04-15T18:02:00.000-04:002009-04-15T18:02:00.000-04:00Darrin and KeithThank you both for your most graci...<B>Darrin and Keith</B>Thank you both for your most gracious and encouraging words. Any good to others that comes from this blog or some of the songs is only by Lord Jesus. <br /><br /><B>Mike</B>As one who frequents this blog u know that if i am reposting an article, I will let the readers know. This one got by me; my bad.<br /><br />As per your comment, I think you meant to say "three days" and not "two days".<br /><br />Grace to you,<br />SteveSJ Camphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844201288864307481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-67846368965257961412009-04-15T17:29:00.000-04:002009-04-15T17:29:00.000-04:00think it might be a little dishonest putting that ...think it might be a little dishonest putting that post on the front like it happened yesterday? or is my IE just acting up again?<br /><br />and those comments hardly read in any kind of order.<br /><br />i was thinking: 'greater love hath no man than this - that he lay down his life for his friends.'<br /><br />jesus knew he was going to suffer, and die.<br /><br />and be resurrected two days later.<br /><br />someone who throws himself on a grenade with the only life they've got, and no certainty of any other...<br /><br />i was at a sunrise service on easter praying, i believe - help my unbelief...<br /><br />mike ruckerspud tooleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09921322553025339949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-68897494724774505742009-04-15T16:45:00.000-04:002009-04-15T16:45:00.000-04:00Steve,
I really like your blog, and this latest p...Steve,<br /><br />I really like your blog, and this latest post reminds me of a couple of the reasons: 1) you are consistently Christ-centered, and 2) you are consistently Scriptural.<br /><br />I also thought I might point out a couple of songs that have made a big difference in my life because they were so Scriptural, one by you and one by your late friend, Keith Green. <br /><br />The Lord saved me when I was serving in the U.S. Navy. I had grown up believing in works righteousness, but there were a couple of sincere Christians aboard my ship that kept witnessing to me about the truth of the Gospel of salvation by grace through faith alone. One of these men also lent me a cassette tape of Keith Green's music. One night while I was sitting up late and alone in a private spot on the ship, I was reading Scripture and crying out to God with Keith on in the background. Suddenly I heard the words of the song "Grace by Which I Stand." In particular, these words:<br /><br />"And how I wish it had been explained, that as you're growing you must remember,<br />That nothing lasts, except the grace of God, by which I stand, in Jesus."<br /><br />Suddenly it dawned on me that God had been sending person after person into my life for years who <I>were</I> explaining to me that salvation was by God's grace and apart from our works, but that I hadn't been listening. This led to even more intense soul-searching and an openness to start listening. Well, needless to say, God spoke through His Word and opened my heart to the truth and saved me. Praise His Name!<br /><br />The other song that really made a difference in my life was your "He Covers Me." In the early days of my pilgrimage on board a U.S. Navy ship, I experienced a great deal of loneliness and isolation, since there were about five or six guys who would claim to be Christians and three who really were (including me). But we all worked in different jobs and hardly saw each other. I also battled the remnants of the works mentality that had plagued me since my childhood. Well, this is where your song came in. I not only listened to "He Covers Me," I also sang it to myself frequently to help get me through the day. It helped keep me focused on the fact that it is through Jesus' work on my behalf that I am accepted by god and not by anything I have done.<br /><br />Of course, along the way God began to help me understand the Scriptures better and to begin to memorize passages that taught about His grace and the sufficiency of Christ to cover all my sins, but He used the song for a while when it was all I knew.<br /><br />Anyway, I just thought I would say how much I have appreciated your blog and let you know that God has used you in the life of yet another person you have never met. <br /><br />I join you in giving <I>Him</I> all the glory, brother! <br /><br />Your fellow-laborer in the Gospel,<br /><br />KeithKeith Throophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-5139181853165979772009-04-14T01:13:00.000-04:002009-04-14T01:13:00.000-04:00Steve,
That may be my favorite hymn, and one rarel...Steve,<br />That may be my favorite hymn, and one rarely gets to see all 11 stanzas. Thanks! Of course the scriptures you post are always appreciated.<br /><br />I am truly thankful that you consistently uphold Christ and His glory first and foremost; and not some random figment called "Jesus" drawn from your own imagination, but the biblical, historic, real, living, holy, sovereign Son of God.<br /><br />All glory to Him for what He has done and continues to do in our lives.Darrinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03569660529270085289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-14420404201483111442008-03-26T20:23:00.000-04:002008-03-26T20:23:00.000-04:00Steve, my experience has been that some things are...Steve, my experience has been that some things are simply too big to blog about. When Good Friday and Easter came, I couldn't write even the beginning of what was in my heart, and had to fall back on bare imagery and quotes. I wonder if that may have affected other bloggers as well.<BR/><BR/>The cross and the empty tomb are at the center of our faith, and despite the reams that have been written about them they're still overwhelming to contemplate. Thanks for your words on the subject.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02238001380092215123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-37361054036825681902008-03-25T15:59:00.000-04:002008-03-25T15:59:00.000-04:00Am I missing something here? Resurrection week-end...Am I missing something here? <BR/><BR/>Resurrection week-end is the most profound celebration in the Christian calendar. Why would we, as Christians, want to blog about anything else but our Lord and Savior during this holy occasion? It is one of two times a year that multitudes of people actually show some interest in the things of God. This should be a non-issue; it is terribly sad and speaks volumes to the effects of culture on the church that we are debating and excusing a highly noticeable lack of proclaiming the Cross to the e-world on Resurrection Sunday. <BR/><BR/>Thanks again Steve, for posting so much on the Cross; it is a great encouragement to the body of Christ.<BR/><BR/>Cydcydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517976881032870570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-86169639690412903562008-03-25T14:19:00.000-04:002008-03-25T14:19:00.000-04:00thanks for taking the time to put all those though...thanks for taking the time to put all those thoughts down in ... keystrokes, i guess.<BR/><BR/>well said.spud tooleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09921322553025339949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-26836570813085436952008-03-25T13:55:00.000-04:002008-03-25T13:55:00.000-04:00Asks Them. Open?Asks Them. Nope.The Spokesman said...Asks Them. Open?<BR/>Asks Them. Nope.<BR/><BR/>The Spokesman said... <BR/><I>Your assumptions are both illogical and unbiblical. First of all illogical because according to your reasoning the only way to understand the atonement is to have first hand experience with animal sacrifices. </I> <BR/><BR/>i don't think i said it so bluntly. it's just outside our realm of experience. and that was the original point i raised - that Britney Spears and Ashley Dupre have no way or need or motivation to understand "atonement". <BR/><BR/>so how do you preach (sell) it to the 21st century schizoid man?<BR/><BR/><I>Your reasoning is unbiblical because you imply that the spiritual man has no right to speak using spiritual words but the Bible says...</I><BR/><BR/>did i type that? i think you're putting text in my display...<BR/><BR/>i don't mind being called unbiblical for a season. but i am not going to roll over and play dead with these logic games ... i'm not looking for debating points. these are honest questions about how - or if - Christianity reveals itself in 2008.<BR/><BR/>it makes more sense when it comes back around on itself, Man killing God giving life to Man. like somebody said earlier in a moment of revelation...spud tooleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09921322553025339949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-34960513475185762242008-03-25T10:29:00.000-04:002008-03-25T10:29:00.000-04:00The Spokesman said... Oh the love of "penal substi...The Spokesman said... <BR/>Oh the love of "penal substitutionary atonement"...<BR/><BR/>Mike said, “i think this is exactly what i'm talking about. this statement and the tozer excerpt above are fine once our minds are inside the evangelical paradigm.”<BR/><BR/>Actually you were talking about, “the verse that's been nagging me lately is 1 cor 1:23 - "but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness..." and, “it's nagging me because i believe we (21st century people, mainly americans) have very little hope of getting past the foolishness…. in a nutshell, we have no familiarity with animal sacrifices of any kind, so the picture of Jesus as a "perfect sacrifice" is incomprehensible to us. and i don't mean in an unregenerate manner, either.”<BR/><BR/>Your assumptions are both illogical and unbiblical. <BR/><BR/>First of all illogical because according to your reasoning the only way to understand the atonement is to have first hand experience with animal sacrifices. If your reasoning were correct then preaching Jesus crucified would not have been a stumbling block to Jews – after all, they had the sacrificial system.<BR/><BR/>Your reasoning is unbiblical because you imply that the spiritual man has no right to speak using spiritual words but the Bible says, “Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words” (1 Corinthians 2:12-13 emphasis mine).<BR/><BR/>Unbiblical also because you say that the picture of Jesus as a “perfect sacrifice” is incomprehensible to us – and I don’t mean in an unregenerate manner either.” Wow! I hope you don’t really believe that! Is there no illumination by the Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:9-10)? Is there no “opening of the heart by the Lord to understand and respond (Acts 16:14)? Is there no opening of the mind to understand the Scriptures (Luke 24:45)?<BR/><BR/>Shall any man boast before God who is in Christ Jesus only through the doings of God (1 Corinthians 29-30)? No! But he will boast in the Lord (1 Corinthians 1:31).<BR/><BR/>Grace and peace,<BR/>Olanolan stricklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05345193051857763038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-32117855534367332882008-03-25T00:48:00.000-04:002008-03-25T00:48:00.000-04:00Steve,I am so grateful to continually see articles...Steve,<BR/><BR/>I am so grateful to continually see articles that consistently focus on and glorify the Lord Jesus Christ here at this blog.<BR/>It has been tremendous to read through these weighty posts on the Cross, especially during this magnificent week-end. <BR/><BR/>Furthermore, I appreciate seeing so many pastors come here to be encouraged in the Word and share their thoughts with you as well. It is a huge blessing for all of us. <BR/><BR/>Thank you for your faithfulness to His Word, and special thanks for thinking, teaching and posting biblically, not culturally!<BR/><BR/>Cydcydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517976881032870570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-62966857352606297602008-03-24T23:29:00.000-04:002008-03-24T23:29:00.000-04:00OlanOh the love of "penal substitutionary atonemen...<B>Olan</B><BR/><I>Oh the love of "penal substitutionary atonement" - "We know love by this, that He laid down His life for us..." (1 John 3:16).</I><BR/><BR/>Amen my brother!<BR/>Thank you..<BR/>SteveSJ Camphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844201288864307481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-21195294924293871312008-03-24T23:22:00.000-04:002008-03-24T23:22:00.000-04:00Jesus paid it all! To Him be glory and honor and d...Jesus paid it all! To Him be glory and honor and dominion forever! Oh the love of "penal substitutionary atonement" - "We know love by this, that He laid down His life for us..." (1 John 3:16).<BR/><BR/>Grace and peace,<BR/>Olanolan stricklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05345193051857763038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-46747716028641081962008-03-24T22:34:00.000-04:002008-03-24T22:34:00.000-04:00sj walkerThank you for sharing this prayer request...<B>sj walker</B><BR/>Thank you for sharing this prayer request with me and yes, I will be praying for your friend. Please let us know the final results as well.<BR/><BR/>The Lord is Sovereign and in control even of this trial. <BR/><BR/>Grace and peace to you,<BR/>Steve<BR/>Col. 1:9-14SJ Camphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844201288864307481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-34580408794779766042008-03-24T20:35:00.000-04:002008-03-24T20:35:00.000-04:00Hey Steve, and everyone else. Could you be praying...Hey Steve, and everyone else. <BR/><BR/>Could you be praying for a close friend of mine? I won't clog up the meta, but he just got operated on for testicular cancer and is waiting for results on a biopsy of another mass in his lower abdomen. You can get more info at <A HREF="http://www.alionhasroared.com/" REL="nofollow">A Lion Has Roared!</A><BR/><BR/>Thanks.S.J. Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922550763548455625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-6708179903606476732008-03-24T18:36:00.000-04:002008-03-24T18:36:00.000-04:00The following is from A.W. Tozer's book, The Root ...The following is from A.W. Tozer's book, The Root of the Righteous,p. 63-64. It is titled: 'The Cross is a Radical Thing'<BR/> "The cross stands high above the opinions of men and to that cross all opinions must come at last for judgment. A shallow and worldly leadership would modify the cross to please the entertainment-mad saintlings who will have their fun even within the very sanctuary; but to do so is to court spiritual disaster and risk the anger of the Lamb turned Lion. <BR/> We must do something about the cross, and one of two things only we can do--flee it or die upon it. And if we should be so foolhardy as to flee we shall by that act put away the faith of our fathers and make Christianity something other than it is. Then we shall have left only the empty language of salvation; the power will depart with our departure from the true cross. <BR/> If we are wise we will do what Jesus did: endure the cross and despise its shame for the joy that is set before us. To do this is to submit the whole pattern of our lives to be destroyed and built again in the power of an endless life. And we shall find that it is more than poetry , more than sweet hymnody and elevated feeling. The cross will cut into our lives where it hurts worst, sparing neither us nor our carefully cultivated reputations. It will defeat us and bring our selfish lives to an end. Only then can we rise in fullness of life to establish a pattern of living wholly new and free and full of good works.<BR/> The changed attitude toward the cross that we see in modern orthodoxy proves not that God has changed, nor that Christ has eased up on His demand. Christianity has moved away from the standards of the New Testament. So far have we moved indeed that it may take nothing short of a new reformation to restore the cross to its right place in the theology and life of the Church."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-61465368317529478432008-03-24T17:25:00.000-04:002008-03-24T17:25:00.000-04:00nice post. and image.the verse that's been naggin...nice post. and image.<BR/><BR/>the verse that's been nagging me lately is 1 cor 1:23 - "but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness..."<BR/><BR/>it's nagging me because i believe we (21st century people, mainly americans) have very little hope of getting past the foolishness. i wrote a short <A HREF="http://mikerucker.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/bloody-well-right/" REL="nofollow">piece</A> on my blog about it; in a nutshell, we have no familiarity with animal sacrifices of any kind, so the picture of Jesus as a "perfect sacrifice" is incomprehensible to us. and i don't mean in an unregenerate manner, either. the concept itself - God requiring a blood sacrifice - is incredibly foreign to us, since we've never even participated in an animal sacrifice. have we "evolved" in our culture to the point we see the barbaric - and impotent - nature of animal sacrifices? but in doing that, are we the odd man out in terms on history - since everybody else did it? in short, could sacrificing animals to appease God really be "normal"? and us abnormal?<BR/><BR/>"musicianary" - i like it...<BR/><BR/>mike rucker<BR/>fairburn, georgia, usa<BR/><A HREF="http://mikerucker.wordpress.com" REL="nofollow">mikerucker.wordpress.com</A>spud tooleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09921322553025339949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-62689335962284679012008-03-24T14:21:00.000-04:002008-03-24T14:21:00.000-04:00Rarely do I recommend a specific sermon that every...Rarely do I recommend a specific sermon that every Christian should listen to. But I would like to recommend that you all listen to Don Whitney. He spoke at our church this Easter Sunday, and words cannot express what an impact this sermon had on me.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'll make a few summary comments about it later, especially if it seems that no one has had the opportunity to listen to it. But for now I'll just post the link:<BR/><BR/>The sermon is entitled:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://combiblenashville.org/index.php?option=com_artistdirectory&task=playSong&id=306" REL="nofollow">What's This All About?</A><BR/><BR/>I hope you all had a blessed Resurrection Day celebrating our risen Lord.<BR/><BR/>In His Love,<BR/>MicheleMichele Rayburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05815737949587713100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-46031382083692794382008-03-24T13:18:00.000-04:002008-03-24T13:18:00.000-04:00AliceAmen! And that responsibility we should not ...<B>Alice</B><BR/>Amen! And that responsibility we should not cower under or veil the message. <BR/><BR/>Thank you for your comment today.<BR/>Steve<BR/>Col. 1:9-14SJ Camphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844201288864307481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-6299513169702028632008-03-24T13:13:00.000-04:002008-03-24T13:13:00.000-04:00I write a (very) small blog that mostly just my fr...I write a (very) small blog that mostly just my friends read--it's a mixture of writings about my family and my faith. I've lost a couple of non-Christian friends through statements I've made on the blog (such as, Jesus Christ is the only Way).<BR/><BR/>I was convicted lately that really my audience is made up of One, and One alone, so I decided this Holy Week to unashamedly write several posts about Jesus' death and resurrection and what they mean to me, and then leave the results to Him. I could see from the sitemeter that at least one of my non-Christian friends had read each of them.<BR/><BR/>We really do have the responsibility, as Peter says, "to give an answer for the hope that is in us." Especially during this glorious time of year--He is risen indeed!Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780332353141865219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-56911854035315367902007-04-07T11:40:00.000-04:002007-04-07T11:40:00.000-04:00I think that exactly because this Message of the C...I think that exactly because this Message of the Cross is so powerful, so essential and so central to the world, it is being denied by the world. <BR/>As You sing: the enemies of the cross attack it from age to age.<BR/><BR/>The Cross is our only hope. <BR/><BR/>Have a blessed Resurrection Day!annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15669872553144304889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-78271732180477973602007-04-06T19:58:00.000-04:002007-04-06T19:58:00.000-04:00Thanks for this Good Friday message...I knew I'd f...Thanks for this Good Friday message...I knew I'd find what I was looking for here.Marciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655129514017134176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-441762008491658712007-04-06T15:09:00.001-04:002007-04-06T15:09:00.001-04:00Nice post. It could be summed up like this: the cr...Nice post. It could be summed up like this: the cross is a radical thing. :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03880337516584157981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14012689.post-85187421294554549422007-04-06T14:27:00.000-04:002007-04-06T14:27:00.000-04:00How beautiful! Thank you for posting this, Mr. Ca...How beautiful! Thank you for posting this, Mr. Camp. What a fitting reminder on this Good Friday. <BR/><BR/>As I read through these verses, I was reminded of the wonderful sermons on the Suffering Servant you gave at the SBFYC conference last year. They were very precious reminders to me of what the gospel truly means. The Lord saved my sister on the last night of that conference after hearing your sermon. What a blessing. <BR/><BR/>May God bless you for your faithfulness to His word!<BR/><BR/>Soli Deo Gloria,<BR/>Katherine Esteskatherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01350529464320947351noreply@blogger.com